Material Handling - Forklift Tires 101 feat Phil Jandrokovic
In episode one of the Material Handling Series, Phil Janakkovic, an expert in forklift tires, joins the Around the Bead Podcast to share his extensive experience in the tire industry. From his early days in the Navy to building and selling solid tires, Phil provides valuable insights into the world of solid pneumatic tires, manufacturing processes, and the future of material handling equipment. The discussion delves into tire construction, stages of rubber, the benefits of solid tires, and the toughest applications for forklift tires.
🔧 Topics Covered:
Introduction to Phil Janakkovic and His Career — Phil introduces himself, shares his background, and his journey into the material handling and tire industry.
History of Solid Tires — Phil discusses the origins of solid tires, particularly the pneumatic-shaped solid tire introduced by Bearcat Tire.
Banded Solids and Press-On Tires — A detailed explanation of banded solids, how they work, and their primary use for indoor material handling.
Stages of Rubber in Tires — Why multiple rubber stages are used in solid pneumatic tires to enhance comfort, payload protection, and heat dissipation.
Three-Stage vs. Two-Stage Tires — Phil explains the differences between two-stage and three-stage tires, emphasizing the longevity and performance of the latter.
Tire Performance and Costs — A discussion on the performance and cost differences between various tire types, including solid tires and their expected lifespan.
Polyurethane and Anti-Static Tires — The hosts talk about polyurethane tires, their benefits, and why they aren't used more widely. They also discuss anti-static tires and custom compounds for specific applications.
Toughest Applications for Forklift Tires — Phil shares a real-world example of an incredibly tough application at a container board facility in the Pacific Northwest, where overloaded forklifts were causing premature tire wear.
Electrification and Tire Performance — Phil discusses how electrification in forklifts impacts tire performance, touching on resilience and its relationship with tire wear.
Radial Pneumatic Tires vs. Solid Tires — A comparison between radial pneumatic tires and solid tires, highlighting when each is more suitable depending on the application.
Blast from the Past - Favorite Tires — Phil reminisces about some of his favorite discontinued tires, like the Ber and Yann tire, and its role in solving various applications.
Tire Production in Sri Lanka — The hosts discuss why the majority of premium tires are made in Sri Lanka, citing proximity to rubber production and manufacturing practices.
Final Thoughts on Material Handling — Phil offers advice on trusting industry experts and the importance of learning from one another to solve tire-related issues in material handling.
Show Notes:
Episode: Material Handling - Forklift Tires 101 feat Phil Jandrokovic
Host: Joseph and Phil Jandrokovic
Runtime: 32 minutes
Summary: This episode provides an in-depth look into the world of material handling tires, especially solid and pneumatic tires used in forklifts. Phil Jandrokovic, with over 30 years of experience, shares his expertise, discussing tire construction, rubber stages, and tire performance. The episode covers the history and evolution of solid tires, the importance of maintenance, and the innovations in tire manufacturing. It also touches on specific tire applications, the challenges of high-speed forklift operations, and how new technologies like electrification are influencing tire wear. Phil emphasizes the importance of industry knowledge, collaboration, and education for end-users to make better tire-related decisions.
What You'll Learn:
- History of Solid Tires — Gain insight into the origins and evolution of solid tires, particularly the pneumatic-shaped solid tire introduced by Bearcat Tire.
- Banded Solids and Press-On Tires — Understand the difference between banded solid tires and press-on tires and their use in indoor and outdoor material handling applications.
- Tire Manufacturing and Rubber Stages — Learn why multi-stage rubber is used in solid pneumatic tires and how it helps in heat dissipation, comfort, and increased tire life.
- Three-Stage vs. Two-Stage Tires — Understand the performance and cost differences between two-stage and three-stage tires and why the latter is preferred in heavy-duty applications.
Polyurethane Tires and Custom Compounds — Learn about polyurethane tires and anti-static tires, their advantages, and when they are used in material handling.
- Tough Applications and Tire Failures — Discover real-world examples of the toughest applications for forklift tires and the factors contributing to tire failures.
- Radial Pneumatic vs. Solid Tires — Understand when to use radial pneumatic tires versus solid tires based on specific needs like outdoor or indoor use.
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[Music] around the bead podcast tire talk for trucking mining agriculture and more your home for fleet solutions aiming to inform pioneer and entertain the tire world in connected industries sponsored by East Bay Tire keeping essential industries moving
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forward around the bead is back mics are hot and we are here with episode one of the material handling series featuring Phil Jantraovic the material handling forklift tire expert of the universe
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maybe that's a little bold but I believe it phil phil welcome to the podcast are you ready to kick the tires i'm ready to kick the tires Joe so we got a lot to talk about but let's give our viewers a little bit i mean you've you've you've sold everything that's solid uh you've
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uh you've serviced tires you've built tires which I really want to get into but give us give us a little start in the industry where'd you begin how'd you get here yeah sure so uh Joe I uh uh I served in the uh in the Navy from 1989 to uh 1993 when I got out of the Navy
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thank you for your service thank you sir when I got out of the Navy I uh went to the unemployment bureau in uh Akran Ohio and I said uh I'm looking for job placement so what happened is is uh a career counselor at uh Ohio Unemployment Bureau they uh they uh sent me down to
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uh Trellorg Wheel Systems in Hartville Ohio uh what year is this uh 1993 1993 okay and uh in any event uh the criteria at that time to uh get a job there was you had to be able to lift 70 pounds and you utilize hand tools so uh you know uh
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fast forward uh 32 years and and here we are bam damn so you can list 70 pounds you got the job it sounds like uh 2005 uh if you could fog a mirror we could find a role for you um but what's building a tire like building this is
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building solid tires right yes sir uh you know Joe I I tell anybody who who'd care to hear me out you know uh building tires isn't rocket science but but it it definitely is skilled labor it requires uh it it's a labor intensive job but uh
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by the same token it also requires a tremendous amount of attention to detail and uh it is skilled labor and uh you did that for how many years i did that for uh roughly half of my professional career i I'd say about 15 years okay now I' I've always lived in a
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world where there's solid tires on forklifts uh solid pneumatics and banded solids can you give us any history on where where did those come from because it wasn't always that way i mean you had pneumatic solid pneumatic tires for a
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long time on forklifts before someone said "Hey we need a solid tire." Yeah so uh a company uh based out of Chicago Illinois called Bearcat Tire they they were the first company to uh produce what we know today as being a pneumatic
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shaped solid tire yeah uh but uh they they brought it to the market it predates me and uh you know there there was there was a period of time where uh you know solid tires were not industry acceptable but today
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we see them on virtually all forklifts out there and Bearcat uh there's also a Bearcat there was in Australia uh for many many years weird correlation or uh irony there um they were building tires solid tires in the United States at the time yes sir yeah and today uh for most
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of the viewers uh almost every solid tire is produced in Sri Lanka that is correct so abanded solid what problem did that solve i mean it's it's common place now i'd say it's even gaining market share but we're talking about a steel band internal uh is and is pressed onto a
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solid wheel yep so uh you know first and foremost uh uh two two different types of uh solid tires for use in in material handling uh the banded solid or a rubber press on tire as they could be called or even a cushion tire they could be called uh those tires are utilized primarily
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for internal use so think warehouses yeah okay okay and then uh when we talk about a pneumatic shaped solid or a resilient tire uh we're thinking more outdoor industrial type use okay and these tires have stages of rubber is that correct in the case of the pneumatic shaped solid yes sir but not
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in a press on pretty much cushion pretty much in a uh press on tire what you get is is is you get one rubber compound from from base band out outside diameter of the tire there are some manufacturers
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that'll wrap a a black compound an initial black compound around the bass band um the claim is is that it makes the tire run cooler when in all actuality I think actually what what it serves as is it serves to improve their adhesion to the bassband interesting okay so why on a solid pneumatic why are
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there multiple stages of rubber i it's it's comfort it's payload protection yeah is what it amounts to and and uh you know and probably really the most important aspect is is u heat is the number one enemy of a solid tire or a
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tire period and uh the cooler that we can keep that tire running ultimately the longer the rubber will last does a three-stage which is uh my understanding is the premium this the gold standard in today's industry does the three-stage solid help keep the tire cool absolutely
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why not a four- stage why not a five stage well it's funny you say that Joe because uh in a in a different life um I purchased tires abroad from a company that uh went to the market and they uh
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they they publicized that they made a four four stage tire and even a fivestage tire and uh you know there's there's a certain element of sizzle to that but uh it might be a little bit deceptive in other words what I'm saying is is with your typical three-stage tire what you have is you have a a hard
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rubber base or the mounting surface of the tire then you have the rubber that meets the road and right in the center what you have is you have a soft inner core those are what I would call the functional components of that tire in
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the case of a fourth stage tire what uh what the manufacturer is doing is is they're disguising that they're using a material called friction by by going ahead and encasing it in a uh in a in a hard natural rubber what is a what is friction friction is uh friction is a uh
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it's a material that is uh basically a recycled uh compound that uh it it's it's just very hard it it serves as a uh a mounting base for for for a tire uh but outside of pro providing that mounting base there there's no real purpose to it a two- stage versus a three-stage we'll
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just group them as that what what's a variation or performance difference you could see in the same application well I think what I I think where I'd start with Joe is is I would tell you that uh you know with the technology that we have in tires today and and the fact that three-stage tires are are
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fairly common place um I would say to you that I would only utilize a two-stage tire if if I were you know placing that tire in a very low usage application okay three-stage tire is
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going to be the workhorse that's that's where we're going to want to place the majority of tires i asked that question coming from the viewpoint that I think a lot of fleets can look at it and go "It's black it's round it's solid it
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doesn't get flats they're all the same." Um so from a performance difference how much variation like when we look at a truck tire on a class 8 truck you could see mileage anywhere from 50,000 mi to 250,000 mi on a solid tire if the best tire performs at a 100 what is where
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would some of the cheaper tires land i I if I had to guess you know if I if I were pressed I would probably say that you'd probably get about 40% more out of a three-stage tire versus versus a two-stage versus a two-stage that's
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substantial yeah I think so so I was told this a long time ago and I wanted I've been wanting to ask you for a long time i was told that a perfect tire could be built when it came to solid tires that you could make the best compound it could last forever not
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necessarily forever but you know maybe even the lifetime of the forklift it'd just be too expensive and nobody would buy it i you know Joe I I think that I'd be inclined to believe that uh I think
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that we have very very smart people who have been uh working in this industry for a long time that could could make the perfect tire but that's unique to to material handling when when I think about it you're not that doesn't exist
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with truck tires doesn't exist with Earth mover tires or act tires you're not building something that could last forever right u but in the material handling space you could if you're willing to pay for it you could if you're willing to pay for it yeah okay
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so not just black and round not just solid in two- stage versus three-stage but there's non-marking tires which are different colors there's polyurethanes uh there's anti-static give us a breakdown of what else is out there yeah so uh you know Joe uh in the
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case of a a black tire a conventional black tire that tire is black because the strengthening agent in in that rubber is is a material called carbon black okay in the case of uh in the case of a uh a white or a gray non-marking tire there there's no carbon black or a
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yellow or a green or a yellow or a green tire uh let's let's pause there real quick okay so the non-marking tires come in a bunch of different colors is there any performance difference between them no no not not at all uh in in a previous podcast we had uh discussed aperture
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holes and what their function is and whatnot and uh what I would tell you is is is with regard to I guess let's just talk about a white tire or an off-white tire versus a gray tire yeah it it's just really preference what what about
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anti-static and polyure polyurethanes yeah so uh uh Joe you know the first comment with regard to uh polyurethane is is I think it's helpful at one point in time in my career somebody did a very good job of uh saying that you know if you think of poly as being a product
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that picks up where rubber leaves off I think I think that's a a very good way of describing polyurethane product you know I mean what you have is is you have a product that's capable of carrying substantially uh more weight i think the
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number is like 54% increased load load carrying capacity over over a rubber tire but but what you have is you have a tremendously hard tire and uh if if those tires aren't constantly turning they have a tendency to go go ahead and flat spot so uh you know the the idea is
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is that uh polyurethane can can last longer it can carry more weight well why aren't we constantly running on poly and the reason being is is because they're tremendously hard uh they're they're hard on the operator and uh they will flat spot if they're not constantly in
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use so uh like a pallet jack would be something you use polyurethanes for right heavy load small tire yeah okay all right um anti-static anti-static uh yeah it's it's one of the compounds out there uh you know Joe when I when I first broke out into this industry uh they the manufacturers they
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they were I guess for lack of a better way of saying it they they were job shops so um you know you you had the ability to go custom shop would be nicer way yeah you had the ability to uh go ahead and if you had an application that
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uh was was prone to cutting tires you had the ability to go ahead and buy rubber compounds that were impregnated with fiberglass in order to go ahead and uh you know uh lessen the the effects of of cuts and tires um anti-static was was another compound that was out there
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there were uh there there were several different compounds back in the day and uh what what's what's ended up happening to our industry as time has gone on is is that um tire production in this space is has become more of a a cookie cutter approach to to the industry well I give
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you a little story i I I learned of anti-static when I got a call from a military base and they said "Hey we're moving we're moving missiles right and we want uh tires that are the whole
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facility has to be anti-static and that was the first time I had heard of it i thought it was the coolest thing you know and so yes there was some production and it was hard to get but to your point you know solid tires were for
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a long time a custom shop and that's the inherent nature of manufacturing in general is that it's always about getting high production high volumes less SKs more consistency um but that would seem to me be unique space for material handling is all of these custom applications custom compounds custom
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tires for specific applications yes sir so with that being said what's some of the hardest applications you've seen i I'll tell you Joe um and I think this is uh probably a really good time to uh acknowledge some folks that you know have been instrumental in my career um
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when I first transitioned from uh the factory into sales I had the great benefit of uh meeting a couple of guys that were that were key in my career you know I got I got to start with Frank Pope who was my sales manager at the time at Trellorg Wheel Systems um
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uh a lady that uh that helped me transition into sales Janet Algore uh who still works for Trellorg and then uh on the customer side of it uh you know huge props goes to Jonathan and uh a gentleman named uh Junior Kind who's no longer with us but uh Jonathan basically took me under his wing and
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what he said to me is is he said Phil if you're willing to put in the time I'm willing to teach you applications and once you learn applications you'll learn this business and you'll learn it right and he and he didn't fail me yeah but uh
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in any event yeah that that's the correct way to learn the industry and that's the way I learned it i I believe it not just for forklift but for everything i mean every every type of tire we should be focusing on industry and application as opposed to product
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product yes sir so you you didn't really answer my question i love the backstory but what is give me give me one application that's in your top three toughest applications for a forklift tire uh over these last 30 plus years i think uh I think with it said uh these these machines are getting bigger
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and they're getting faster as time goes on probably the the single rough roughest application I've witnessed was very recently it was container board application in the Pacific Northwest yep and uh what I witnessed it blew my mind i mean it was a master class in in
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application and uh what it was is it was forklifts that were overloaded it was forklifts that were running long distances at very high speeds uh the these these uh forklifts were so overloaded and running so quickly the
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the the forklifts actually looked like they were skipping across the surface of the warehouse how how are they overloaded because it's different from like a hall truck or a loader i mean you're simply picking up more than you're you should
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be carrying y um uh I guess is that they got more on the forks than they're they're supposed to be they're carrying something heavier that was the case in this situation yeah that was the case in this situation in uh that container
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board uh industry what you have is is you have forklifts that are equipped with attachments in this case a a paper clamp yeah and uh what what they do is is they pick a Cascade CL plant yes sir yeah and uh they were picking up these rolls of paper and and and transporting
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them long uh a long long distance they're paper rolls yeah paper rolls and too heavy too heavy yes sir does in and I think this is important for the end user and the fleets out there i mean was do we know if there was another forklift option and a different clamp option that
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it was just a mislication on the equipment to begin with or in some cases simply there isn't an answer that's the best possible clamp and forklift option and we got to do what we can uh with the application from a tire perspective and I in in the container board application
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you know I mean uh what'll typically happen is is when you when you see failures in in that uh application it comes down to uh the operator trying to move two rolls of paper as opposed to one roll of paper that they're supposed
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to uh in this case it was just uh it was just that they they were running way too fast and uh they they were maxed out as far as their as far as their capacity was concerned to begin with now if this is the same example that I think we talked about a couple weeks ago wasn't
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there an element of hydraulic fluid on the floor there was right there was yes sir and that was doing what to the tires it It'll make hydraulic oil or any kind of petroleum product it'll It'll make the rubber revert revert it'll revert
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it'll go from a vulcanized state to uh going back to what that what that rubber looks like before it's it's vulcanized or cured oh really yes sir like it'll liquefy it'll liquefy yeah is it all over the floor it is it is and in this
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case Joe I'm telling you it was a crazy application in this case um this end user uh was was physically scraping up rubber that was was adhered to the the floor surface yeah it was It was insane i've seen rubber on floors before but I've never
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really picked up hydraulic fluid now now that makes some sense yes sir huh so you're still in the process of trying to find a tire that might help with this application or is it simply it's it is
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what it is i I think there's a lot of things that can happen now I'm I'm old school and and what I mean when I say I'm old school is is Jonathan taught me that uh you know when you go into an application you don't tell the
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end user that they need to change their application you find a solution for them and uh like I say it was it was easier to do when when uh these custom shops existed wii w with uh deploying additives and whatnot but uh you know I
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I think that there's a certain amount of education that needs to take place we we need to we need to slow these these forklifts down first and foremost we need to take care of these hydraulic oil leaks and then I think that there are
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still some products out there uh like high load compounds that that we can we can throw at this application and greatly improve the situation the um how would a poly react with the uh hydraulic fluid on the floor poly would resist it
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it would definitely resist it uh I would only recommend running an 80 durometer poly in the steer axle position on the forklift and then uh you know you get into operator comfort in this case this was a union shop maybe the union is is gonna reject that because because the uh
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the labor force would would complain about sore backs and whatnot but but poly would would definitely be a step in the right direction i I certainly agree with your viewpoint and popes uh that it's it's incumbent upon us to give them
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a solution from a tire side but at the same token I think we can at least have that conversation of all right what's the what's the failure rate with a with the with everything on your forklift whether it's not just tires it could be the hydraulic lines it could be
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everything else from running the operation the way that it is running let's look at if you did one roll at a time exactly right or if you were to cap the speeds even even a few miles per hour less yes sir yes sir and and I think that that's uh you know Joe that's
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uh that's part of my job part of my day-to-day job you know I mean uh these guys are they're going so fast that uh you know if there's even a momentary distraction it could be catastrophic yeah yeah it's it's big business now um
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you mentioned uh the harsher applications coming up more and more because of the size of equipment uh what about electrification of equipment i mean that's that's been relatively big we're seeing that across all industries um and it's having an impact on tires from a material handling perspective
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you've got a variety of different uh fuels so to speak um are any of those changing tire wear you know so uh Joe I don't necessarily see electrification or or a battery operated forklift uh affect entire performance
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now in the case of like uh hybrid loaders and whatnot I for uh radial otr tires you know I believe there's been a huge impact but uh in the case of forklifts not so much um what I will say to you is is a a quality rubber compound there's a
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measurement of what's what's what's referred to as resilience okay what resilience is is it's uh the rubber's ability to rebound to its its originally molded shape resilience is it's huge and
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it's huge whether uh we're talking about a electric forklift or we're talking about an internal combustion forklift because the higher the degree of resilience ultimately what happens is is less energy is required to go ahead and and place that that tire into motion and
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keep that tire into motion so the higher the degree of resilience the less fuel is required in order to run that that machine and you know a a good example of what resilience is is when we were kids
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and we played with super balls yeah you know you bounce that ball and that ball you know goes up to the ceiling that that's a high degree of resilience is there a correlation between resilience and durometer yeah there could be there could be yeah okay and for our audience out there what
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is durometer durometer is it's a measurement of hardness so uh the scale is air would be zero yeah steel would be 100 and rubber compounds are going to fall anywhere in between zero and 100 huh okay um I think since it's material handling 101 we can't disregard pneumatic and
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specifically radial pneumatic um that being a airfield tire the radials having steel belts in them what applications are a radial pneumatic preferent preferential compared to a solid so radial you know when we talk about radial uh pneumatic tires uh Michelin
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actually with their XEM product years ago probably god on onwards of 20 years ago they had a powerful demonstration where they laid out 4x4s on the uh on the floor and and the first thing that you got to know about a forklift is is there's there's no suspension in place
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so so that rubber uh that serves to uh provide the suspension for the forklift and what Michelin did and and like I say powerfully what they did was is they laid out these they they laid out these 4x4s and and they they staggered them in such a way that uh what would happen is
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is uh the forklift would go and it would pick up a pallet and then they run over this 4x4 and what you seen is is you seen that that that payload on the front on the front of those forks it didn't go anywhere now uh the opposite was was
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true in the case of the solid tire you know they they run over that and what ends up happening is the load tips over but uh I think that radial is very important as far as payload protections concerned uh for for uh an industrial
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application if we're talking about uh uh protecting the casing of the tire I think a case could be made that that a bias ply product would would be more suitable yeah you're you're you're saying that from the standpoint that the structure of a bias ply tire a cross ply a nylon
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all the different names the structure is built into the sidewall not the not the tread that's great so a radial pneumatic or pneumatics in general great fit for outdoors right where you're going to have variable items to drive over um but an indoor a solid that's correct did Did
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do we know did Michelin invent the radial pneumatic forklift tire with XM or was it Continental i mean there's a variety of folks that make it nowadays that I do not know okay i do not know great transition on that uh we do a segment called Blast from the Past favorite beads what's a tire that is no longer produced that was one of your favorites two uh two tires uh I was I was always a very very big fan of the Bergen Yan product bergen Yan was was was kind of known at one point in time as as being the fixall uhhuh uh and who made it it
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was made by a Sri Lankan company of course yeah uh called Bergen Yan and uh later acquired by Trellborg and uh ultimately phased out is their branding uh plan uh or their marketing plan took over but uh Bergen John product it was a beast it it could fix any problem that
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that existed if if you didn't have a solution you threw a burgie at it it was it was a it was one compound that just was kind of the end all be all fix a variety of applications it was bad to the bone yeah it was and uh the other the other tire that I very very very much liked uh wasn't necessarily a pretty tire or a sexy tire if you will but uh the ITL soft tough with the uh the convex sidewall that that tire that tire would run and it would run well i agree i think the ITL was a great product for a long time it just had terrible marketing yes sir you know I
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did the logo the the presentation all of it i you couldn't absorb it yes sir yeah okay very cool sri Lanka we could talk a little bit about Sri Lanka you have been to Sri Lanka yes I have not been to Sri Lanka okay we're gonna have to fix that um what's your opinion on why all the
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premium tires are built in Sri Lanka i think it's it's close proximity to uh you know we got to be reminded that uh uh rubber is is is derived from a plant and that plant grows primarily in Southeast Asia y% okay uh Phil uh big dog energy you've
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you've built tires you've sold tires you've you've done it all what's a moment in your career where you felt like this is really what I want to do this is my BDE my big dog energy i want to continue on this path you know Joe it's not an exciting story but it it's a
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true story uh I went to my first sales meeting and I'm I'm in uh downtown uh Atlanta i'm looking at this beautiful building man i mean and it's it's lit up it's gorgeous and I said uh I said to my
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sales manager I said 'Look at that building man that that building's gorgeous and he says to me he says 'Now Phil imagine working in that building for 20 years and trying to get a a window view you know uh I love the tire business uh specifically working in the forklift space uh it's
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allowed me to go into uh all kinds of different manufacturing facilities you get to see how different things are made you're you're never uh you're never forced to feel as though you're you're uh chained to a desk uh the industry's taken me around the world
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and uh it's just been a very very rewarding career american dream yes sir absolutely all right well Phil anything else you think our viewers need to know for material handling 101 you you know I think what I would say is is I would say that uh when when you meet someone that you trust uh
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you take that advice you know whether that be a mechanic or whether that be you know your sales rep that you've developed a long-term relationship or whatnot uh you know we're we're here to
30:28 kind of learn this together and figure it out together and whatnot and uh you know I I think the uh the story as far as is tired our guys are concerned is is that uh you know we all got a lot of help along the way and uh we're eager to
30:43 want to get out there and educate end users and and help them save money and uh you know we're here to help one another share the information we've gathered absolutely yeah well I will uh say this to the audience put your questions anywhere on the website in the
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As Phil reflects on his career, he emphasizes the importance of continuous learning, humility, and the willingness to adapt. He credits his success to mentors and the invaluable lessons he learned along the way. For those working in the tire industry, especially in material handling, he urges them to always focus on the application and not just the product. Phil encourages everyone to communicate effectively, prioritize safety, and never underestimate the value of teamwork. Whether you're just starting in the industry or are a seasoned professional, there's always more to learn, and the right mindset can make all the difference.
As Phil's story shows, embracing opportunities and staying humble can lead to a rewarding career. The tire industry offers endless possibilities for growth and innovation, and with the right attitude, anyone can thrive.
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